Words & Interview by ARIANNE PHILLIPS
As told to JANE CROWTHER


The award-winning British designer who has worked repeatedly with Mike Leigh and Joe Wright unpicks the fantasy element of period costumes in creating unforgettable looks for films such as Anna Karenina, Atonement, Little Women and Wuthering Heights.

James Mcavoy, Keira Knightley, Atonement, Jacqueline Durran
James Mcavoy and Keira Knightley in Atonement (2007). Working Title

Jacqueline Durran is a British costume designer celebrated for psychologically nuanced, texturally rich films that are both historically accurate and conceptually modern, across period-dramas and contemporary film. With a career spanning more than two decades, Jacqueline has become one of the most respected voices in costume design – and one of my favourite designers. She is known for her work with some of the most celebrated, respected and visionary directors, including Sally Potter, Steve McQueen, Greta Gerwig, Noah Baumbach, Emerald Fennell, Bill Condon, Sam Mendes, Pablo Larraín, and most notably her enduring collaborations with Mike Leigh, with whom she’s designed 10 films on which she has developed a documentary-like sensitivity with character and social texture. 

Jacqueline rose to prominence through her ongoing collaboration with Joe Wright, with whom she designed nine films beginning with Pride & Prejudice in 2005. Notable films Jacqueline has designed include Atonement, Macbeth, Cyrano, 1917, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy and Blitz, to name just a few. Her versatility extends beyond literary period-drama and across genres that include The Darkest Hour, Beauty and the Beast, Steve McQueen’s television series Small Axe, Spencer, Barbie and, most recently, Jay Kelly and Wuthering Heights. Jacqueline stands as one of contemporary cinema’s defining costume designers, bridging classical craftsmanship with modern sensibility. She is an eight-time Oscar nominee, of which she won two (for Anna Karenina and Little Women), an 11-time BAFTA nominee and three-time winner (for Vera Drake, Anna Karenina and Little Women), and a five-time Costume Designers Guild nominee.

Keira Knightley, Anna Karenina, Jacqueline Durran
Keira Knightley in Anna Karenina Year (2012). Universal Pictures

AP: Where did you grow up and what inspired you to go into costume design?

JD: I grew up in the south of England. And I hadn’t gotten the idea that I would be a costume designer at all, ever. I didn’t even know that it existed all the way through to the end of university. I was a great reader, and I was quite academic. I did philosophy at university, and I left university and I just wasn’t sure where to go, or what to do. I sold vintage clothes at Portobello and Camden [markets], because I’d always loved clothes. I wasn’t brought up with film as a great part of my life, but one day I was watching a soap opera on British television, and I thought that the costumes were terrible. It was the thing in my brain that made me realise that somebody did costume. A good costume is so good that it’s almost beyond explanation or analysis, or you can’t identify with it, or you can’t see anything that you could bring to it, because it’s already perfect. My mother met someone who was filming a commercial in one of the buildings she was looking after. And she just said to them, ‘My daughter wants to do costume. What do you think she should do?’ And they said, ‘Oh, she should work in a costume house.’ So then I wrote to the costume houses, and the one that said yes was Angels. And then the whole world of costume opened up to me. Lindy Hemming was one of the designers that came in that I really connected with, and I really loved working on her shows with her. When I became freelance, I started working with her; Topsy Turvy was one of the first jobs I did with her as a full-time employee. She is entirely responsible for me being a designer. I don’t know if I would have done it, but at the time when Mike [Leigh] was doing his next film, which was All or Nothing, she said, ‘You’ve got to do it. I’m just going to tell him.’ And so she did. And I felt a terrible imposter, but I got the hang of it. And now, finishing on what might be his final film, I’ve done 10 Mike Leigh films.

AP: The fact that you studied philosophy, and that you were an academic makes perfect sense with not only projects that you choose to design, but the work itself. I would imagine you must enjoy research as much as I do?

JD: Yes I do love research but for me that is just the foundation on which you build the costumes. I find it hard to define the process of designing. Each project creates its own problems and its own patterns. Anna Karenina, for instance, was never going to be set in a theatre. It only became a theatre 10 weeks out. Prior to that, it was just going to be a period-drama set in period locations. But for one reason or another, Joe [Wright] decided to pivot and make it a theatrical movie. The switch taught me something – I realised that you picture a scene to understand what the costume is going to be. But if you can’t picture the scene or understand the location it’s a block to where you are going costume-wise. And you realise that everything is connected.

Imelda Staunton, Vera Drake, Jacqueline Durran
Imelda Staunton in Vera Drake (2004). Album

AP: People talk about your work all the time: the green dress in Atonement; the tailoring in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy; those gowns in Anna Karenina, which I feel are reminiscent of Piero Tosi’s work. And then of course there’s Barbie and Wuthering Heights….

JD: Joe and I came to Atonement having already done Pride & Prejudice together. Obviously I read the book and the dress is such a pivotal moment in the film. Joe would just say to me, ‘It’s just got to be the most amazing dress ever.’ I went through books of different dresses, different designers for the period and I just chose all the elements that I liked. The motivation for the costume is: what would you put on if it was the hottest day of the year and you couldn’t bear the heat? Cinematographer Seamus McGarvey, Joe and I came up with a stack of green swatches, which I gave to Tim Shanahan, the dyer, and he created that beautiful green colour from the range of greens. The fabric for it was fine cream silk from a wholesaler called Whaleys – its lightness because of the heat of the day. And then the detailing on the bodice was taken from a Lartigue photograph where the dress was beaded. But because of the logic of the heat, and because we were trying to take away any weight or depth, I laser-cut that instead of beading it. So everything was about reducing and minimising the weight of this dress. And obviously it came to haunt me because every five minutes this bodice split. We made absolutely loads of them. I was always fully aware of the fact that I wasn’t sticking to period, because obviously if I take all these different elements from these different period references and put them in one dress, the dress is no longer period, because I’ve messed with it.

Ryan Gosling, Margot Robbie, Barbie, Jacqueline Durran
Ryan Gosling and Margot Robbie in Barbie (2023). Warner Bros. Pictures

AP: I really appreciate that because we’re making films, we’re interpreting a story and we’re creating a world. I think the greatest gift for me, working with a director, is that ability to interpret, and what’s appropriate for the story that we’re telling. It’s all taking cinematic license. 

JD: When you’re working on the costumes of a period film you have to communicate the character. I do not believe that most of the audience would be able to interpret and understand a period costume if there was no license taken with how you communicate that. Anna Karenina was a good example of an artistic decision made in order to communicate a position, a theme and a meaning that Joe was bringing out in his telling, which was about consumption and opulence and display. So conspicuous consumption and the 1950s and the New Look after the war create a moment that you can transpose into the past. It is something a contemporary audience understands and it opens up the story set in the 1860s – it’s a key into the story but when you mix the two together, you are telling a new story. Costumes sometimes have to be invented for modern tellings of stories set in the past because the action in the script is not something that would have happened in the past. In Little Women, Greta asked for Florence [Pugh] to be downstairs in pyjamas, not fully dressed. If your director is telling a story, you may have to costume it in a way that is not accurate – but it is the director’s story that counts.

AP: What were your conversations like with Emerald Fennell when discussing Wuthering Heights?

JD: During the time that Emerald had been writing the script, she’d put together this huge file of reference pictures from cinema, old paintings, photographs, fashion, the catwalk… This whole collection that probably spanned five centuries, and was completely eclectic. So that was my starting point. The film falls roughly into three acts. So you have Wuthering Heights, and you have Thrushcross Grange, and then you have Act 3, when Cathy is in mourning but she’s also in the full throes of passion with Heathcliff. Each act has a silhouette, to define it. The first costume that we see Margot [Robbie] in at Wuthering Heights was the result of my favourite piece of reference that Emerald gave me, which was the cover of a paperback edition of Angelique. It’s a drawing of a made-up character in a costume that’s from no period at all. It’s just imagined. And that was always the thinking in the process of Wuthering Heights – to hit this imaginary level all the time, and to hover somewhere in the past that’s non-specific. Margot jumps into the movie. She is in a costume. She is an imagined paperback novel cover. She is not in linen. She’s in silk. It’s not real. It can’t possibly be justified in any way, apart from in the imagination, and in what this woman is representing to the 14-year-old Emerald. Again we are telling Emerald’s version of the story, so I tried to incorporate as many of her references as I could. The wedding night costume came from a picture of a woman sitting wrapped in clear cellophane plastic with a big red ribbon wrapped round it. We wanted to use it because it worked symbolically – the woman was a gift. It doesn’t really have any period context at all!

Rosamund Pike, Keira Knightley, Pride and Prejudice, Jacqueline Durran
Rosamund Pike and Keira Knightley in Pride and Prejudice (2005). Universal Pictures

AP: The wedding dress was just beautiful.

JD: And it goes back again to the story that directors are telling. It’s not at all likely that that woman would have been walking across the moors on her own with a huge veil and a white, sparkly dress covered in glitter. 

AP: Your work in Lovers Rock is one of my favourites…

JD: We shot it in 10 days, with two or three weeks of prep. I did a lot of research into different kinds of street looks of that period in Brixton. The one thing I noticed quite often was that at particular types of parties, West Indian women wore a particular type of dress that seemed to be quite proper. There was a soundsystem look, and then there was this other look, which was dressy and quite feminine. And Steve [McQueen] said, ‘Yeah, let’s do it.’ He created this room of people who were so in tune with each other. I think it’s an amazing piece of work. 

AP: Is it important to work with a director with a real vision?

JD: The more precise the brief is, the more you’ve got the challenge of meeting that brief, but you’ve also got the excitement of getting there. If there’s never a brief, how can you ever arrive? That frustrates me. I can be given a really minute destination to land on, but if I don’t have anything to aim for, if I don’t understand what we’re doing, then I find it really hard to be creative. The greatest joy of making a costume is nailing it. Looking at it, and saying, ‘That is it. It’s the right costume for the right film, right now.’

Benedict Cumberbatch, Gary Oldman, Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, Jacqueline Durran
Benedict Cumberbatch and Gary Oldman in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy (2011). Entertainment Pictures

AP: Do you draw? Do mood boards? Collages? Do you drape? How do you help your director understand your volume and your colour and the feeling?

JD: I really like mood boards. I just like the way that they’re incomplete. They’re like a suggestion of where you’re going. It’s going to be a combination of this and this and this. And I really like that. I like to get the fabric, and I like to look at it and see what it will do, and then start to look at the proportion on the stand. Interestingly I learnt the other day that Coco Chanel didn’t draw and she built a whole empire! I have often collaborated with Chanel on movies and we used their jewellery in Wuthering Heights. We were looking for fantastic large beautiful costume jewellery. They went through their archive and found an amazing selection from the ’50s to contemporary – it was perfect, especially the large jewelled gothic crosses which were so much a part of Cathy’s look. Over the years, Chanel have supported different movies I’ve worked on. Their contribution is so wonderful because they have a sensitivity to what the movie is and want to support that rather than impose themselves upon it.

AP: It makes me think of Kate Hawley’s relationship with Tiffany this year, for Frankenstein, and how she went into the archive. I had my experience when I did W.E. with Cartier and Van Cleef. It can be such a wonderful asset. I dressed Margot for Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, and we got a couple of pieces of Sharon Tate’s real jewellery from her sister. And that just became such a touchstone for her.

JD: Yeah, totally. And on Anna Karenina, it was diamonds. Chanel lent us millions of pounds of diamonds. I used to bring them out in a tray to Keira [Knightley]. This tray would be shining with diamonds, and it was a great Anna Karenina thing, because it was about that kind of conspicuous consumption. The diamonds were real, and I felt it was a really good kind of contribution to the whole costume.


Words & Interview by ARIANNE PHILLIPS
As told to JANE CROWTHER
Wuthering Heights is available on home entertainment formats now
Atonement / Anna Karenina / Vera Drake / Barbie / Pride and Prejudice / Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy

September 21, 2025

Emma Watson invites Greg Williams to a game of pickleball.

September 21, 2025

Beauty and the Beast, Emma Watson, Harry Potter, Little Women, The Bling Ring, The Perks of Being a Wallflower

Photographs by GREG WILLIAMS
Interview by HASSAN AKKAD


Emma Watson invites Greg Williams to a game of pickleball in Cannes as she revels in being the happiest and healthiest she has ever been. She tells her friend and filmmaker Hassan Akkad about shedding her public persona, holding space for change and how walking away from things is much harder than walking towards them…

Beauty and the Beast, Emma Watson, Harry Potter, Little Women, The Bling Ring, The Perks of Being a Wallflower

Emma Watson is currently living in the present, practicing being in the world without the pressure of producing. This past May, that meant travelling to the Cannes Film Festival to immerse herself in movies with her friend and filmmaker Hassan Akkad after a self-imposed break from the public eye. It’s there that Greg Williams captured pictures of the actor playing her new obsession: pickleball. ‘It’s the sound the ball makes when you smack it; it’s the best therapy I never paid for,’ she says as she plays. Having had a hectic film career since she was just 10 years old and cast as Hermione Granger in the Harry Potter franchise (going on to The Bling Ring, The Perks of Being a Wallflower, Beauty and the Beast and Little Women), Watson has since taken a calculated step back from acting to continue her education and challenge herself. After they return from the French Riviera, Watson and Akkad catch up to discuss the exploration of creativity and having the courage to leave something behind.

HA: How are you? What’s been going on?

EW: I’m good. Just been working really hard. I’m working on – actually, I’m not going to say what, because then people are like, ‘Well, when is it happening? What’s going on with this thing?’ So I’m just going to say that I’m working on something that I’ve never done before. So I feel a bit like a person who’s in the dark, stumbling around, looking for the edges of something, and hoping [laughs]. It sounds like I’m trying to find a light switch. But it’s good. That’s the process. That’s the process of making things, isn’t it?

HA: It is. Can you give us a hint of what it is? 

EW: You know, it’s so funny – I think this is probably why I’ve been avoiding interviews in general. You’re the only person I would agree to speak to. It’s because I’m just not on a linear timeline at the moment for anything. I’m really going on: ‘Does this feel right? Do the stars align?’ I’ve gone super, super extraterrestrial, touchy-feely. 

Beauty and the Beast, Emma Watson, Harry Potter, Little Women, The Bling Ring, The Perks of Being a Wallflower

Oddly, somehow, the less I try to do, the more I get done. I don’t know how I would shape the distinction between effort and trying. Or maybe what I would say is: I’m caring, and I’m present

HA: I’ve always hated the question of ‘What are you up to?’. No one needs to be up to anything, I believe. 

EW: I agree. And I’m up to lots of things. But I’m feeling this big resistance. Because even once you’ve done whatever the thing is that they’ve managed to get out of you that you’re up to – then the minute you’ve told them that, it’s like, ‘Well, what about next? What are you going to do next?’ It’s very difficult to be a person who’s living in the present moment in this kind of context. I guess that is, as pretentious as it sounds, what I’m striving for at the moment. I want to speak more to a way that I’m being in the world, as opposed to what I’m producing.

HA: You don’t have to justify your existence.

EW: That’s the other thing I feel pressure around. That I don’t have a right to exist if I’m not being productive in a very specific way, or contributing in a very specific way. Oddly, somehow, the less I try to do, the more I get done. I don’t know how I would shape the distinction between effort and trying. Or maybe what I would say is: I’m caring, and I’m present.

HA: I testify to you being caring and present. I think all of your friends also testify to you being a phenomenal friend. Are you happy and healthy? That’s a question that I would like to ask you.

EW: What a question. The only question that really actually matters. I am maybe the happiest and healthiest I’ve ever been. I think what’s interesting about being an actor is, there’s a tendency to sort of fracture yourself into multiple personalities. I’m not just talking about the roles you play, but having the weight of a public persona, that sort of needs constant feeding and sprucing and glamorising. It’s very energy-intensive stuff. And shedding the multiple identities has freed up so much space, I think, for me to be a better sister, daughter, friend, granddaughter, and then artist. And someone who’s trying to do some critical thinking of her own.

HA: Speaking of acting – Greg took those stunning shots of you in Cannes. What were you doing there?

EW: Everyone’s like, ‘What’s the mission here?’ I was like, ‘I just wanted to go and watch films.’ I just wanted to go and be in the room again with people who absolutely are completely, madly obsessed with film. I just wanted to be part of the atmosphere, and also a part of the community. Because while I might not be making work right now, I still do feel that I’m part of a community, and I want to stay connected to that community, and be part of it. Getting to go and to actually just have the time – not to be trying to promote or sell something, but just to be able to have a conversation with someone, and to look at other people’s work is the goal.

HA: I have to mention that moment when we were together watching Jeunes Mères when the cast saw you watching their film with them. It meant the world to them. I don’t know how you felt. I saw it through their eyes how much they appreciated that you were there watching the film with them.

EW: That was very touching for me. There was one specific actress, Janaina Halloy, whose performance was magnificent. I saw her. She clocked eyes with me, and just immediately broke down. I think that has been a theme of my life, and something I’ve talked about before. Which is, we really value this very active, masculine ‘do, create, go’. But it sometimes undervalues receptivity, and listening, and being there. I just felt the immense power of just giving this person a sense that I was listening to her, and that I thought that what she was doing mattered – enough to be there and show up. And I saw it really move her. That meant something to me too, because I realised I was contributing just by being.

Beauty and the Beast, Emma Watson, Harry Potter, Little Women, The Bling Ring, The Perks of Being a Wallflower

While I might not be making work right now, I still do feel that I’m part of a community, and I want to stay connected to that community, and be part of it

HA: Do you miss acting?

EW: In some ways I really won the lottery [with acting], and what happened to me is so unusual. But a bigger component than the actual job itself is the promotion and selling of that piece of work, this piece of art. The balance of that can get quite thrown off. I think I’ll be honest and straight-forward, and say: I do not miss selling things. I found that to be quite soul-destroying. But I do very much miss using my skill-set, and I very much miss the art. I just found I got to do so little of the bit that I actually enjoyed. The moment you get on a film set, you don’t get very long for rehearsal. But the moment you get to talk through a scene – or I got to prepare and think about how I wanted to do something – and then the minute the camera rolls, and getting to just completely forget about everything else in the world other than that one moment – it’s such an intense form of meditation. Because you just cannot be anywhere else. It’s so freeing. I miss that profoundly. But I don’t miss the pressure. I forgot it was a lot of pressure. I did a small thing for a play, just with my friends. I was like, ‘Bloody hell, this is stressful!’ And that wasn’t even for a real public audience or anything. I don’t miss that.

HA: Will you consider doing something behind the camera? Not on screen but behind the screen?

EW: Yes, I think I’d consider everything. The most important thing, really – or the foundation of your life – is your home and friends and family. I think I worked so hard for so long that my life sort of bottomed out. The bottom fell out of the piece, which was actually me and my life. So I needed to go and do some construction work. Some good foundations for anything else to grow from. Because if you don’t have that, there’s a kind of mania that ensues; a kind of panic where you move from one project to the next, kind of terrified of the void in between them. You realise you don’t have a rhythm to your life. I read this thing recently: each day, our daily lives have to have satisfaction and completion and meaning, in and of themselves. I needed to go and rebuild that. And I’m very happy and proud I did. Because walking away from things is much harder than walking towards things. Leaving things, and not knowing, is much harder, I think, than having a goal, and being able to tell everyone exactly what you’re up to. So it felt very courageous at the time. And, if I’m being honest, I was mostly just really afraid and quite scared. But I’m very pleased that it was the right thing. Sometimes the hard thing is the right thing, not the easy thing.

HA: True, true. You have a habit of listening to songs on repeat. Which songs are you currently listening to on repeat?

EW: I’m so glad that you know this about me. It’s lovable or absolutely abhorrent. I’m not sure which one. I’m listening to Brandi Carlile, who wrote this freaking unbelievable song called ‘You Without Me’ that she wrote for her daughter. It gives me chills every time I listen to it. So that’s the song today that I’ve been playing while I’ve been working on my essay. I’m coming on to the eleventh or twelfth listen [laughs]. 

HA: Why did you pick up a sport that is named after a pickle? What
happened there?

EW: A friend of mine’s parents taught me how to play. They’re retired tennis pros. Over time, it’s just grown into kind of an obsession – an obsession I feel good about. If I can do anything meaningful with my life, perhaps it’ll be of being in service to the great game that is pickleball!

Beauty and the Beast, Emma Watson, Harry Potter, Little Women, The Bling Ring, The Perks of Being a Wallflower

HA: Final question is, what’s giving you hope these days?

EW: Aw, that’s a great question. Honestly, it’s being around young people that still see the world as malleable and changeable, and who care deeply about it. I also just love this idea that, yes, I agree change takes a long time, and the hammer will come down a thousand times on the same piece of stone, and nothing will happen. And then all of a sudden, one day, the stone will crack. I think to say, ‘Oh, you know, nothing ever really changes’ – I’m not sure I believe that.

HA: I can testify to that.

EW: I was about to say: where you are, and what you’re up to, is so relevant.

HA: I’d completely given up on ever going back home to Damascus, and then suddenly one day, you know, after 13 years of being away, I was able to go back. I’m here. It’s a bit stressful because ballistic missiles are flying over my head every day. Change can happen with the blink of an eye. Everything could change. Will you visit Damascus one day?

EW: As your invitee, Hassan? Yes. You are truly my family. So, absolutely. But, to your point… Yes, I’m profoundly disappointed that we still live in a world where so much pain and injustice is possible. But, on the other hand, if you look back through time, we have managed to overcome unbelievable, insurmountable terrible things. There are case studies for the impossible being possible. So, you know, I think it’s a case of knowing everything is not OK, but holding space for the fact that, actually, sometimes in the blink of an eye, things can be different. 


Photographs and video by GREG WILLIAMS
Interview by HASSAN AKKAD

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